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Insider Daily. DX12 Xbox One vs DX11 PS4. 2014 tech vs 2012 designed GPU. Sony forces Ubisoft to lie
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Misterx: Does MS feel competition from Mantle? If yes that means AMD started their own HSA game? Seems like MS try to PR DX away from Mantle..

Any mega info to confirm?
- ff7  xbox one exclusive
-subscription model(well you talked about it singe 2012)
-MS bought Nin?

Also any update on illumiroom? Maybe still to happen?

Insider: The ceo has left.. I wonder why.. the uncharted guru has left. One off there first party studios got closed... hhhmmmm I hear they definitely couldn't pay to fund that remake. And a test demo of s3 is getting shopped around now and with sega's blessing and publication licence agreements.. 30 / 100million needed to fund this baby ;)

No downgrade on watchdogs gfx on x1 @ 960p... but the textures lighting are a lot better then the other one... but come e3 I dont think this will mater well :) I seen wd direct sdk and something is not right???? May be the fix will come down on e3 night...

on last thing hf2 is good.. defiantly above the others.. could be exclusive from story going around.. but still something better would be a cranky witch and sher sisters :)

Parasite: Guys you aren't going to like this but my source's have told me there is a huge push to make watchdogs inferior on Xbox one to take the momentum building going into e3 away. Look for resolution gate to be a big part. Ubisoft from the pressure of Sony will not convert the ddevelopment over to take advantage of new ask. My source also told me the game is a rehash AC anyway.

Misterx; That is not gonna end well.No Watch Dogs for me if it will be as bad as looking on PS4.  


Misterx: Well, DirectX 12 confirmed for Xbox One. Stacked GPU and local CLOUD on the way.

DirectX_xbox_one

DX12 Xbox One vs DX11 PS4. 2014 tech vs 2012 designed GPU. A generational leap difference. This time there is a huge difference between generations because of full HSA(see first HSA benchmarks - there is 3 to 5 times speed bump compared to current PCs).

All previous GPU iterations usually gave us 10% to 30% speed bump compared to previous years GPUs. Now it could be 300-500% bump for the same silicon size.

The problem is - AMD and Nvidia will choose to shrink die size and get the power up only by 30-50% every year. Not the whole 300-500% at once.

On Xbox ONe there is a little bit different story. All the hardware already in Xbox One. They also cut die size and power comparing to full HSA PC GPUs chips by 45% according to insider to make stacking possible but it is enough to be on pair with PCs for 5-6 next years with slow decline from year 5.

I think OpenGL could not copy DX12 features this time because those features hardware based. Software emulation is always 50 to 100 times slower or in some cases is simply impossible.

Neogaf is in denial. More and more people realized how Sony brainwashed them over n4g.com, neogaf,com and other corrupted sites. Things could change very fast and those lairs will be executed by the community.

Now Microsoft should show us DirectX12 tech in motion. Hope for a great presentation. Last several years Microsoft did not invest their employers time to make great inspiring tech demos everybody will talk about.

Mistercteam: Here on MrX, we repeatedly said DX12 will be for X1 too
it is same as X360, even this time insider said as X1 GPU is fully programmable there is no DX restriction anymore(misterx- remember a statement "every game on xbox one have its own game os").


Xbox 1
1st of its kind
1st to do Fully hardware Coherent
1st to do 3d stacked
1st to do Big-little-GPU processing (3 lane processing concept)

Also above all
MS played us a little bit,

look at DX 12 announcement
at first only AMD,Intel, Nvidia & Qualcomm

People speculated, X1 is not capable
if you see most forum other MrX blog
people (mostly) still thinking X1 is not powerfull
as they still thiking top layer, still thinkig cloud is internet
cloud, yes it is true, but X1 have 2nd layer (or any other jargon you like), local cloud, dGPU, 2nd layer whatever.

Then Today MS updated its MS blog page
plus official twitter hinted it
Officially Xbox also DX12+ (i give a plus sign, for any upcoming further DX enchancement)

Just Like X1 lauch
when they already stated on Arch panel
people keep downplaying it
when people or neogaf already know PS4 is 192 ops/cycle
when poeple already know Jaguar only has 2 Execution unit or 2 FPU unit
it can only do 3 ops/cycle
Operation is not Instruction, Operation is Floating point operation.

MS is attacked, with bad image
DRM fiasco
People Laugh with the top layer spec as the spec for the whole X1

On top of that people forgot 3 Billion R/D VS <200 Million Sony RD for PS4 (read the last year financial report, when they said less than Cell RD is result of using off the self part)

Good Job,
Well played MS, well played !!!!!

Ubisoft insider: DX12 is almost ready. In april MS send beta SDK (DX12) to most X1 developers. Full version DX12 is expected in June. E3 2014 will be great ;)

Misterx: Buy buy Sony. Some brainwashed gamers will still love you because of your games. Some will try to forgive but will refuse.. Honest and respect is very important. Massive lie and brainwash could never be forgiven.

Migration from Somy 1st party studios had already started. Sony could not allow pay much as others anymore. Some could not cover the lie anymore.
uncle-dolan-meme-misterxmedia

UPDATE
Insider:
There has been a brake down between respawn and Ea... respawn are open to an exclusive licence agreement with tf I.p with ms... ea say's no ... the 24 hours is vital for exclusive rights to future versions.
Also major issues with severs client side.. ms had to change sever loads management due to major difference in beta/ alpha to final retail. Early severs have offload bandwidth management issues. The resolution will be alpha locked but the game is dynamic resolution. There is going to be alot of patch rework. 960p there still patching for but 60fps lag free servers are priority. I think this is the real critical test for xbox one cloud server side. Dont expect bf4 issues tho.. all of this will not matter come e3.. you all know whats there nothing now will matter.

Misterx: Alpha or beta? If Alpha than it is 720p and CBOAT was right with this(wrong with textures quality) If beta it is 792p and CBOAT was wrong both on textures and resolution. While 960p patch still on the way.

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I'm hoping that DX12 levels the playing field and means that Xbox One versions are at least on par with PS4 versions. Hopefully no more DF Face-offs showing lower resolution/effects/frame rate.

First party games is where it will really shine as they can focus on X1 architecture solely.

We haven't really seen true next gen games yet outside of a few glimpses (Ryse) so the second wave will be a big jump in visuals.

Maybe I missed something. What game on ps4 has ALL of that actually working? It's one thing to have 1080p and not lock in a frame rate. Or 60 FPS with no shadows or dynamic lighting (second son). Thiefs framerate is horrible, GG admited Killzone is not 1080. So are you talking about the fud, cause I don't see anything consistently hitting on what you mentioned anywhere on ps4.

post is updated a little. refresh your pages.

DX12 is for new architecture

mistercteam

2014-03-08 11:51 am (UTC)

It will need a specific feature
that can not be provided by PS4 or X1 top layer sea island based


Just like insider said last year
X1 GPU is (lower layer) is framework for R10

or for prepapration on Nvidia Side ---> Maxwell High end (Denver core), and Volta

Edited at 2014-03-08 11:56 am (UTC)

Re: DX12 is for new architecture

HernyFood

2014-03-09 05:59 am (UTC)

Top Layer could still be specific for dx12 It would make sense so both layers can interact.

With PC's if you got a lets say dx 11 capable card you can still play games using dx 10.

So what im saying is what if top layer also is dx12 compatible its just running dx11 till dx12 drops bombs on sdf

@MrX Good Summary as always, and DX12 is 1st step that proove Insider & all of our digging here

mistercteam

2014-03-08 11:53 am (UTC)

Great ......
So much relieve.....

It is a collaborative work....



Re: @MrX Good Summary as always, and DX12 is 1st step that proove Insider & all of our digging here

misterxmedia

2014-03-08 12:06 pm (UTC)

yep,

congratulation Mistercteam! time to relax a little bit.

Xbox One same price as PS4 in UK

boasterzstar

2014-03-08 11:54 am (UTC)

Bargain. Amazing value.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/microsoft-xbox-one-500-gb-games-console-a29lz

Edited at 2014-03-08 11:55 am (UTC)

Re: Xbox One same price as PS4 in UK

dino_baby

2014-03-08 12:15 pm (UTC)

it's better value, because the PS4 doesn't come with a camera.

This was from a PS4 I cant believe how bad it looks from the orig trailer from E3. What happened? Is the insider saying the X1 will look like the trailer from E3? If you were to compare the two the X1 would blow away the PS4 on this game. I think its possible look at ryse.



Edited at 2014-03-08 12:09 pm (UTC)

Re: Watch Dogs-Gamespot

boasterzstar

2014-03-08 12:11 pm (UTC)

Typical Ubisoft.

Remember the Ghost Recon Future Soldier reveal being nothing like the final release?

The E3 2012 Watchdog reveal was amazing. It was up there with Star Wars 1313 in impact.

Insider Fix on E3 Night

(Anonymous)

2014-03-08 12:33 pm (UTC)

What does insider mean about a fix coming down on E3 night? Sounds important but I couldn't follow it.

Re: Insider Fix on E3 Night

DollMighty8313

2014-03-08 05:09 pm (UTC)

I was wondering this as well.

OK this is rhetorical Question, If some company said Next Gen GPU, the other said Modern GPU

mistercteam

2014-03-08 01:38 pm (UTC)

What if we got some slide that said
"Our GPU is Modern GPU"

Then The other companies claimed
"Next Gen GPU"

All along and we just don't pay attention to it
But with this DX12 announcement
This overlooked info have very significant implication.


Edited at 2014-03-08 01:40 pm (UTC)

Re: OK this is rhetorical Question, If some company said Next Gen GPU, the other said Modern GPU

dutchrogers

2014-03-08 01:45 pm (UTC)

Another nice catch MrC!!!

"on last thing hf2 is good.. defiantly above the others.. could be exclusive from story going around.. but still something better would be a cranky witch and sher sisters"

anyone knows what games insider is referring to, and his mention of s3 from Sega, does he mean a sonic game?

thanks in advance for your replies.


PS. Directx12 + tile resources is all the proof I need to confirm that XB1 is more advanced than the ps4. :-)

thanks misterx, misterc & all insiders who helped to confirm the things Microsoft had claimed & the things they kept hidden from us in plain site :-)


Haha, we can help each other:

S3. Shenmue 3


But what is hf2?

Probably obvious but I just woke up, :P


Flying Monsters in Titanfall

(Anonymous)

2014-03-08 01:51 pm (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bznqhV1HIQw

Is this Gameplay new?

Re: Flying Monsters in Titanfall

noctifero88

2014-03-08 02:56 pm (UTC)

oh my god... many drakes kill and eat men in titanfall... VERY GOOD FIND

If you are a TWC customer this is not good news. I don't know if this will change, (hope it does) but if it doesn't, there is no way i can download all my games, updates, add-ons, do my regular internet uploading to Youtube and work from home with a 300GB data cap.

http://gizmodo.com/how-comcast-twc-will-end-your-all-you-can-internet-buff-1523899968

X1 = NextGen GPU (new arch) vs PS4 = Modern GPU

mistercteam

2014-03-08 02:22 pm (UTC)


I'm guessing this has been happening for a while now :D

ricardosilva78

2014-03-08 02:23 pm (UTC)


Re: I'm guessing this has been happening for a while now :D

cybersigma

2014-03-08 02:35 pm (UTC)

Lmao
Nailed it

Fyi, forza 5 + no router ipsec vpn passthrough = unhappy gamer...happy now

lol, hopefully we can get another epic party some time soon

-CabinTerror

So the game sizes are actually similar between PC and XB1? Hmmmm...

Not sure how the Xbox One version audio will be. they will need more than just English, unless it is region targeted???

However, the implication here is parity between PC and XB1 at least from a texture level?????

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/08/titanfall-enormous-difference-in-install-size-between-xbox-one-and-pc-explained-35-gb-of-audio/

Thoughts????

Another link says XB1 is a little over 16GB...so strip away roughly 35GB of audio you have maybe the exact same size o.O

Oh My! This could be something...just can't wrap my head around how the console version will handle multiple languages...because the XB1 audio system is BOSS! So it isn't like would lower quality.

There is some MAJOR good news in this...I think!!!


Edited at 2014-03-08 02:44 pm (UTC)

Nice find.

We know that X1 and X360 had great compression algos, so maybe it is able to keep the Dolby HD or DTS HD audio compressed, and maybe they are only adding the correct language files per region disks.

It seems that the visuals are not the reason for difference.

Infamous is going to drown in the TF hype and success. Funny that an open world game is roughly the same size as a multiplayer only game.

Edited at 2014-03-08 03:06 pm (UTC)

"A cranky witch and her sisters"

ricardosilva78

2014-03-08 02:42 pm (UTC)


Unaswered questions...

jmerr74

2014-03-08 02:43 pm (UTC)

So nothing about the NIN buyout? I think more of a merger would be interesting, who's the witch and her sisters? What is FF7?

Re: Unaswered questions...

noctifero88

2014-03-08 02:57 pm (UTC)

Final fantasy 7

Anyone have 1 last beta codes for me. I did not get one from MS and if i do i will pass it along.

Re: Late to the patry.

NeoFreeman

2014-03-08 04:05 pm (UTC)

beta Code for What ?

What about the titanfall surprise

just going to summarize as best I can.

Tom mentions XB1 having DX12 by retweeting image we have linked here.

Additionally, when asked if it is just W9 or what. He said w8.1 will be threshold. My interpretation of that is: DX12 will work with w8.1 and above...nothing prior. This being Windows and Windows Phone I assume? and obviously XB1.

Re: Tom Warren Twitter

dutchrogers

2014-03-08 03:33 pm (UTC)

UPDATE: Seems "threshold" is a big update for Windows in 2015...reading about this now, will have an update below that you guys may be able to extract more info from the link I am posting below! PCWORLD article.

Edited at 2014-03-08 03:55 pm (UTC)

Why am I not surprised that this guy does not have a video up talking about dx12 on x1!!!! Goes to show where he stands.. Do you guys agree?? (Red gaming tech )

hard to say. Could be time lag, busy, trying to figure it out himself. maybe we hear from him with new post in next few days. Should be interesting if so. Looks like he/they post pretty frequently...so maybe we get an update from him today. I had forgotten about this guy, I don't use youtube stuff as far as following gaming news...will keep this bookmarked for what it is worth (have listened to a few vids in past).

http://www.redgamingtech.com/

Edited at 2014-03-08 03:27 pm (UTC)

And down the stretch they come:

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41700/USA/

XOne 43,627 (+18%) 2,272,024
PS4 39,559 (-23%) 2,563,539
X360 13,247 (-18%) 42,562,687
PS3 12,438 (-21%) 25,991,645

NSFW!!!!!!!:



acoording to that chart XB1 has sold more in the states now fuck ya and titanfall is not even out or the bundle hahahaha system seller

Threshold is name that circulating around it is for next Window or next 8.x update

mistercteam

2014-03-08 04:08 pm (UTC)

it is already circulating since last year
yes but this news mostly circulated around O/S related news
and wont be picked up by usual gaming site news


Did you guys get the codes i sent to work. Let me know please.

Looking for a code if you got an extra and its not too much of a bother.

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