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"Industry insider" CBOAT is actually neogaf.com moderator. Fraud disclosed.
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/This is dublicate post for ease of use. Original post and comments in post above/
Mistercteam: CBOAT is Neogaf.com moderator EKIM. Fraud disclosed. Here is CBOAT gate story in more detail:

Short story:
1. Many thread is started by this guy called EKIM. Then there is some huge news started on neogaf by CBOAT himself about leaked valve source2.0 engine
2. Someguy ask ekim why the CBOAT link is actually from his (ekim) dropbox.
3. Then mod removed all evidence from that guy asking ekim.
4. T
hen ekim deleted his reference to cboat dropbox
then the thread is also edited

Long version:
1. CBOAT made new thread on neogaf.com with Valve's source 2.0 pictures.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=758999

He also made this story to support CBOAT can be trusted:
http://www.valvetime.net/threads/source-2-left-4-dead-2-prototype-screenshots-leaked.244266/#post-3416016

2. Neogaf user xPaw posted this info in that thread:
(click to enlarge)
cboat_before_deleted

xPaw: "CBOAT's image is http://i.imgur.com/wHGvHxQ.jpg, if you go to http://imgur.com/wHGvHxQ
you will see "from: api.viglink.com", clicking on it leads to https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0/Untitled.png (which he deleted already), if you google that account id, you will find multiple posts from ekim(ukuuku account).

Also, this guy is from Germany, folks at valvetime confirmed that the ukuuku guy is also from Germany."

A link to this post here(from google cache as it is deleted now)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QBQjo0SDf4oJ:67.227.255.239/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D758999%26page%3D17+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk

MIsterx: Note user ukuuku from where CBOAT posted his pictures in first thread post.

3. All information about CBOAT = EKIM had been deleted by neogaf.com moderators very quickly.

cboat_deleted
Link to this page now: http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=758999&page=17

4. EKIM also try to delete all info linked to ukuuku account.
cboat_ekim_edited
6. BUSTED.

cboat_people_saw

Misterx: What does it mean?
1. That means that CBOAT (one of 3 main Microsoft haters on internet that sets the tone for all others MS haters) is neogaf.com moderator EKIM. The other 2 are @thuway and @mortimortier. Neogaf moderators created CBOAT to spread a lie about Xbox.
2. That means that EKIM have links with VALVE because leaked pictures of Source 2.0 are real(well people say they are 3 years old).

Could that mean part of  Microsoft hate on neogaf.com is managed by VALVE? Many neogaf users started to wonder if CBOAT is Gabe itself or not? :)

3. Also that means that CBOAT is used as provocator. When he get info about Microsoft's Xbox minor problems he spread them to maximum level as a big problems. That set the tone for many "journalists" and fans over the internet (their motto: attack Microsofts  minor weak points for massive damage).
4. That means that whole neogaf.com is used to spread hate on Microsoft. Well we here know why is it so. Microsoft outplayed all their competitors and they try to save their sales by lie and brainwash because they know they could not complete with Microsoft, People will choose Microsoft at the end because of games, value and features when all the Xbox One 2014 tech will be unvealed.

UPDATE:
Ekim explained his version of what happend.
- He was CBOAT's source for this leak.
- He appologized to VALVE for leak.
- He edited links not to be tracked his edentity as CBOAT source.

What does it change?
- A little. CBOAT still neogaf's mods weapon to spread FUD about Xbox. They protect CBOAT as holy grail. There had been tons of similar cases about leaked identify and mods did nothing to protect other people. Why they protect CBOAT identity only? Why they do actions on Xbox fans they don't on Sony fans? Why almost every good opinion about Xbox One leads to ban? Why Sony fans bad opinions only allowed?

There is two versions for everyone to choose.. But no version denies the fact that CBOAT is fake insider And that is the main story of all of this. And that is a  great news for all Xbox fans as the truth got its way up.

I don't beleive Ekim. I hope EKIM got his lesson how to deal with CBOAT - a fraud neogaf moderators use to spread lie about Xbox.


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MIstercteam: Anyway whoever use that cboat nickname it is cleary is multiple user. And now the CBOAT image is going down with this and it is clearly cboat is not industry insider in real sense and cboat is more about method to stir the perception of
X1 lately. And neogaf also will have bad rep about this.

Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/7NPe7FTn

  1. Sites like SonyGAF and N4G do what is called in the industry "stealth marketing."  You can read about it here.




  2. This is done all the time especially on forums and comment sections to control the conversation on a given product and sometimes to damage the competitions reputation.  Anyone who has worked at marketing can see this clearly happening on SonyGAF especially.  Notice how whenever a thread is made with potentially bad news about Xbox One there are immediately a bunch of junior member replies agreeing with it or posting jokes.  This is to keep the conversation flowing in the direction they want it.  If a thread derails and starts becoming too positive about Xbox they will make a CBOAT post in order to redirect the conversation back to where they want it.  There are many more examples but here is the big one.  If something that could be considered bad news on Sony is posted they change the thread title, usually to something funny or nonsensical.  Usually about bears.  That is the smoking gun.  Why would they intentionally hurt their own traffic ranking by preventing a thread from being properly indexed?  The only reason to do that is to prevent the thread headline from being picked up by search engine spidering.  They have to protect their master.  If you watch the site closely you will easily notice these basic stealth marketing principles being applied time and time again.  I cannot say for certain whether or not Sony has invested money in GAF but it is a strange coincidence that the owner of the site jetsets all over the world and doesn't have a real job.  Or maybe they just love Sony that much.  Some day maybe someone will be able to connect the dots on all this.


  3. In case people do not want to believe Sony would do this, there is a link in the references section on the Wikipedia entry covering a previous undercover marketing campaign Sony ran for PSP and how they got caught with their trousers around their ankles.




  4. The news of Machinima's Xbox One promotion should have opened eyes to how common this sort of thing is but most people find it easier to blindly follow what they've been told is the truth by marketing bots like CBOAT and rest of the SDF.  The internet is used for marketing purposes in this way but all sorts of companies not just for video games.  It is more common than anyone knows.


thank you @mrX for adding additional info

mistercteam

2014-01-28 04:52 pm (UTC)

yes i agree, in this matters, Valve and Sony Game division (probably not the whole sony) is at same boat to try to spread the lies about MS X1.

now they got busted.

Funny thing is SDF try to cover and agree
about the junior member must be banned because exposing it.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=98734495&postcount=1030
(Reply) (Parent) (Thread)

If Cboat is a Valve heirarch...

thehunt3r_orion

2014-01-28 05:00 pm (UTC)

Things just got bad for Valve. Real bad. Because he will be outed as an insider, and maybe not fired, and then Valve will be linked to the spread of negativity to hinder a competitors product, which is VERY much against the law.

The funniest thing though. No one sees Valve as a competitor but they threw their own name in as a competitor.

Re: If Cboat is a Valve heirarch...

thehunt3r_orion

2014-01-28 05:01 pm (UTC)

Bad news, if Microsoft pursues this, we lose Half-Life 3. Good news if true, Microsoft could sweep this thing under the rug if Half-Life 3 were an exclusive...

That's the road I'd take.

Re: If Cboat is a Valve heirarch...

and3rs78

2014-01-28 05:07 pm (UTC)

WOW!!

Re: If Cboat is a Valve heirarch...

chanogram

2014-01-28 10:30 pm (UTC)

meh, they can keep half life 3. I was ready for half life 3 4 years ago. Now? i've moved on to other IPs.

Passed this along to Kevin Dent on Twitter. (Copied from earlier entry)

TheMemeStash

2014-01-28 05:17 pm (UTC)

Kevin Dent has a big following on twitter.
So I passed this along to him.



He sent it back out.
Prepare for some heat on this blog... MisterX...PREPARE FOR INCOMING!!!


also thank you too @anonymous

mistercteam

2014-01-28 05:33 pm (UTC)

as his info then triggered our own investigation
as probably soon, neogaf will inform google to delete the cache

at least we already documenting the evidence @mrX blog

Is Ekim a mod? It says member next to his name on captured picture above

POOR CBOAT, sorry EKIM, sorry MIKE. People are ripping him apart on twitter,

So funny EKIM is almost begging KevinDent to believe him. Kevin is just saying post LinkedIn or you're CBOAT.

jajaja...kARMA IS A BITCH!!

I'm going to pose a legitimate question to you guys...

What are the chances that ekim is a not Cboat and just a Valve employee that you may have just gotten fired because you found the source of that specific Cboat leak?

Think about it.

The evidence, and especially the lightning fast cover-up reaction by the sonygaf mods, point to BUSTED.

It's important to call this out because a popular influential website is deliberately deceiving and misleading people to serve a specific company's agenda.

This is just evil. Evil must be confronted.

it could be, but fact is remain:

mistercteam

2014-01-28 06:45 pm (UTC)

1. cboat using same dropbox account
2. EKIM delete all this dropbox account reference to all his older thread
even a 1 year old thread.
3. the xPAW reference is deleted

if he is not related, ekim dont have to delete it
he can just posting that some of cboat info is from him

but the damage is done
true or not, cboat reputation is going down..... with this


Edited at 2014-01-28 06:47 pm (UTC)

Well if he is a Valve employee he's either doing it with their permission or if not he'd prob be in breach of contract with them and will get fired.

In fact he'd prob get fired either way as a scapegoat if Valve were really behind it.

So its a problem he's brought on himself.

Yes, exactly. He did this to himself.

Not really our problem. He broke an agreement with his company. If hes caught, then that's between him and his employer. While i wont go out of my way to out an insider, and i appreciate "good" insider info... its a risk that you take if your going to leak something.

Megaton!!!

Whether this turns out to be true or not anyone who has been a member or a lurker of GAF for at least a year knows why GAF has lost all credibility and why everyone from gaming fans, truly unbiased websites, and devs need to out this plague that has ruined what has easily been the bar for all gaming forums to follow.

Xbox fans and gamers alike witnesses the Xbox fan 'holocsaust' last year that started to brew after the Sony reveal and gained steam leading into the Xbox One 'intitial' Xbox one reveal conference.

Mods from GAF targeted any and all Xbox fan and banned them from the site. The bannings seemed innocent at first but quickly the world knew that Neogaf felt comfortable enough to ban anyone without reason.

Again anyone with eyes knew that not only that at least a small segment of GAF had taken the console war into their own hands, that in all probability there is money and employment involved.

If you weren't aware, a huge segment of GAF members are truly composed of the gaming industry whether they out themselves or not, which is why the MS smear to include the 'insiders' gained any traction outside of GAF.

Websites like Kotacku and Eurogamer are in cahoots as they benefit from financially from Sony and GAF through hits and ads. All the other sites are running scared of GAF. Devs and Publishers who are literally losing a ridiculous amount of money Everytime their games are inserted into the insert next gen 'fabricated' controversy largely gave been running scared of further backlash.

Karma is a b!tch though. There are some great gaming fans on GAF and can feel how they have really grown restless as GAF has been slowly but surely dragged down to N4G status.

All of this in the name of a console war that is hurting our favorite industry.

Mr Media X's site no matter whether you agree with every view or topic has been the shining beacon of light where gamers can come and find out breaking stories that the gaming media is too scared to report on.

Write anonymous because I'm on my phone and away from home. But the next installment of the Xbox smear report coming soon.

One thing i don't agree on.

(Anonymous)

2014-01-28 07:25 pm (UTC)

From what I experienced NeoGAF is wwayyy wayyy waaaayy worse than N4G.

great summary , yes it is a karma for them

mistercteam

2014-01-29 12:56 pm (UTC)

just like i said, this is a good move

Someone should send this to Albert or Larry at MS. If Ekim is a Valve employee, they might be interested.

CBOAT is a NEOGAF repository

evoopin

2014-01-28 08:08 pm (UTC)

Ekim is just another provider information to CBOAT , it is not CBOAT .

Let me throw shit on the fan ...

CBOAT is the account used on NeoGAF for any moderators and users who have information insdustria . They use this profile , but the truth is that it is easier to camouflage the sources , given that there are several .
They communicate by DM , so moderators logam with CBOAT account and make the post / leak.

Do not attack the Ekim , he's just an employee ... Attack NeoGAF staff and their moderators .
There are patients who do not accept dissenting opinion .

If you analyze well, everything that is posted on behalf of CBOAT is followed by a single written and tasteless , it has a reason . They write that way to avoid writing analysis .

CBOAT is nothing more than a repository for informants can post , even most of the time such information is wrong .

Hopefully next , Ekim and others think twice before you go around trying to promote secure and confidential material.

Was ekim ever a moderator?

also, looks like xPaw has something to say:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1wdx4h/new_article_exposing_cboat/cf15cfh



Edited at 2014-01-28 09:51 pm (UTC)

So either Ekim is Cboat, or Ekim is a leaker (possibly from Valve). Either way, he's probably f'd in real life. No one will want to employ him.

This is amazing the detective work put foward is great. Hope they fire the fool, death to Cboat.

Any insider they come out with now everyone will just think it's another cboat that site is a joke it needs shuting down. They give gamers a bad name

LOL elite09: CBOAT a hero we deserve...

@mrX , good update ....

mistercteam

2014-01-29 12:46 pm (UTC)

and even the reddit debate about cboat is very intense
this is a good move, at least know they will try 2-3 times
before try to stir some agenda

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