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Sony try fake PS4 reviews. Only trusted and paid journos got retail PS4 as it keeps overheating
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anpanman: I don't really have any "insider" information to share but I do have many contacts in the gaming media and can tell you that everything Kevin has posted there is true. Sony has completely dropped the ball. Dropped it down into a sewer. They've managed not just to piss off 99% of the gaming media but have actually frightened some of them, including Adam Sessler, into considering leaving the gaming industry entirely.

Gaming journalists have had Xbox One consoles for weeks now and were expecting to receive PS4 debug units over the weekend. Instead they have been told only a very small number of major media outlets would be getting a console and no one will be given the ability to capture direct-feed video. To say these members of the gaming media are shocked, hurt and pissed would be the understatement of understatements.

Cherry picking which media outlets are given debug consoles and cutting everyone else out is the same as paying for reviews. It sad to see people trying to minimize and downplay what is happening here like, not surprisingly, SonyGAF is doing. These are real people being hurt not random fanboys on a gaming forum with no real connection to the industry. The damage Sony is doing is real and affects many people's lives. To them this isn't just a game.

imonamilkcarton: This is matching up to the info I have been receiving!I am also hearing the red line is happening after a hour or so into gameplay on certain games.The red line means system is over heating or there has been an error!The red line is dealt with by resetting the system or cutting it off and letting it cool!

I also hearing only the bigger well known and Sony freindly gaming site are getting or Recieved the dev/debug kits.Sony has really shit the bed!This is very bad on Sony's end!

imonamilkcarton:
NEW INFO AND RUMOR!!
THIS IS FROM THE SAME SOURCE,BUT HE SAY PS4 DOESNT SUPPORT HDCP SO PEOPLE CAN NOT RECORD GAMEPLAY OFF PS4! THE PS4 IS ALSO RED LIGHTING AND CRASHING FOR SOME REVIEWERS,

UPDATE 2
SONY NOT ALLOWING YOUTUBE COMMENTARY TO BE POSTED WITH OUT THERE PERMISSION PER GAME REVIEW!I ALL CONTENT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY SONY!

mistercteam: also because they are forced to review
based on stage demo
when the stage demo could be from PC based devkit

not retail unit
https://twitter.com/AnnoyedGamer/status/394346837697503232

anpanman: yes, mistercteam, that is correct. Debug consoles are only being sent to cherry picked media outlets by Sony (and not many to begin with). All other gaming media are only being allowed to review games in a closed environment via Sony press junkets like the one IGN posted the invitation for the other day.

"If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck."

HenryFood: Marcus Beer ‏@AnnoyedGamer 13m
Let me clarify 1 thing, it's not about "video capture issues", it's about evaluating things in staged environments.
Don't trust staged shit.

Marcus Beer ‏@AnnoyedGamer 2h
If the media can't do it's job due to daft restrictions, we can't do our job and inform the consumer properly. That's the crux of things.

Marcus Beer ‏@AnnoyedGamer 1h
@Laughing__Man_ Not to my knowledge, it is about making balanced coverage of a console launch damn near impossible though.

So nothing to do with x1? Are sony doing something desperate

2fakes: MarcusBeer Is pisssed at Sony for lying! LOL is this the end of the world? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87649519&postcount=1961

"Hi all, took me a while to remember my password or I would have jumped in sooner.

Its not just about the games, its reviewing the actual system 2 days before the damn thing ships.
Something feels off right now to be honest & a lot of people are pissed about it.
If you have seen anything I have done over the last 8 months, you will know I have been very happy with the way Sony has been doing things but now its time for them to shit or get off the pot and they are being damn evasive about allowing serious access to the system before launch.
I have mine preordered (ditto XboxOne) & if that is the only way I will get to have said access to the PS4 then so be it.
When people delay access to something, game or hardware, it's never for a good reason in my experience."

icyrocket: Impressive! Ryse: Son of Rome - Forging the Armor and Weapons http://youtu.be/94oKJz5KYMM

mistercteam: several people at neogaf , "hope neogaf server ready for what is coming" also remember 29oct http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87616861&postcount=3303
"I hope GAF servers are ready for whats coming."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87617248&postcount=3339
"Didn't sessler say Xbone owners need not worry?"

"If they're saying that it's not a problem for Xbone, what could it be?
Could the internet survive a PS4 delay?"


Also look at this 1080p vs 720
even X1 video is 720p (yes there is 1080p)
==========================================
it is clearly PS4 version AA is not good enough (some missing ?) very noticeable on building on image.

and seems the colour is better on X1, it is like X1 on all games
have more CGI look. (My own opinion anyway)

(open image in new tab to see in full res!!!)

Misterx: Could Sony release an overheating PS4 as it all point it is? I think yes, they will, no matter what. Also i don't worry about resolution debates. The games still will look better due to more stuff on screen and FX. Our first televisions had 536i and still look photorealistic :) Yes it is bad that Xbox One could have some start rush and games will not use full power. But image quality is still the king and will be better on Xbox One i beleive.

rmb2: Makes sense MS dalay Xbox reviews. MS want comparisons with true PS4.

av3rag3gam3rguy: They say history repeats itself
May 5th, 2006 - SCEE CEO David Reeves: "It doesn't really matter what ships at launch." "The first five million are going to buy it, whatever it is, even it didn't have games," edit for 2013 *and even if it overheats after an hour"

I understand Microsofts silence on a LOT of issues now if these things are correct. Why would you waste your time defending your company and its product against a company that has done nothing but lie, and can't even get their product working.

MS will show working Xboxes (as they have been), show games being played on those boxes (the road show) and sit back and watch as people realize more and more the Sony fud.

I game, and i had planned on getting a PS4, but with all this info, if true, i may evoke my own six month delay and wait till they sort this out. I don't need a $400 personal heater that only works for an hour.

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Sony is coming to an end!

Barry_Hart1985

2013-10-27 12:09 pm (UTC)

If this is true then i cant see sony being able to dig themselves out of this there already losing money and not even selling the playstation for a profit 60$ loss on all consoles.

Re: Sony is coming to an end!

xboxon1hut

2013-10-27 12:26 pm (UTC)

i wouldn't even want a debug unit. i want that thin wafer console that i can leave on in a 90 degree environment for 24 hrs

Something with shit and a fan...

Sony's Play Is To Get PS4 Into Homes

splay912

2013-10-27 12:32 pm (UTC)

Sony will sit tight knowing that in a couple of weeks people will storm out worldwide and pick up a PS4. Remember, the majority of the worldwide public will probably never hear or even care about the Sony lies until the console issues show up in their homes.

At which point Sony will promise to fix them and continue to talk about how many games are coming and how much more powerful the PS4 is than the X1. All Sony really cares about is getting the sales at this point and it actually would have been better for them to admit the problems and delay the console if necessary. But they've chosen (as they've done since E3) to simply ride the negative pub (which much has come from them) of the X1.

Re: Sony's Play Is To Get PS4 Into Homes

xboxon1hut

2013-10-27 12:49 pm (UTC)

agree. sony has done nothing. microsoft did make it easy for them with all that #dealwithit stuff. was down hill from there

Amazing

(Anonymous)

2013-10-27 12:55 pm (UTC)

Looks like Sony is pulling a massive bait and switch with this console. Show everyone gameplay running on powerful PC kits disguised as the actual system. Then sell everybody a hot mess of a PS4 which won't even be properly reviewed by the media because only select "trusted" outlets.

All the while....Sony fanboys all over the internet are making up false shit for Sony to make X1 look bad, and actually bash the journalists telling the truth about Sony's shady strategy.

Unbelievable
I hope Sony gets hurried after they launch. With Xbox launching a week later, it would be perfect if people are all trying to trade in their fucked PS4.

"I hope Sony gets hurried after they launch. With Xbox launching a week later, it would be perfect if people are all trying to trade in their fucked PS4."

LOL, i laugh reading above comment.....

I'll see it for myself

xdlugia

2013-10-27 01:03 pm (UTC)

I'll be atending to a local video game event called "Spillexpo" where both Microsoft and Sony will be atending with their consoles. I will see for myself which one runs on PC or actual hardware. I also plan on doing a little interview.
The event isn't before the 8th of November though.

Its all starting to make sense, this shit is getting craaaaaazy. If its true, sony better pray to little baby jesus that they get it sorted out before the 15th. They got 19 days and their company is officially bankrupt

Re: wow

(Anonymous)

2013-10-27 06:33 pm (UTC)

Lol it's preety funny because I'm thinking and I'm like fanboys... They'll continue to buy the system even if it overheats in five minutes of gameplay. I have a friend thats a Sony fanboy when I hit him with some cold hard undeniable facts.. he did just what all the fanboys do when they dont know what to say. They say... PS4 still better. Shaking my head... Help me

neogaf keep spinning on this

mistercteam

2013-10-27 01:22 pm (UTC)

also the undeniable:
- The journo dont have real real retail unit, most of them are debug unit

So, how come only 2 more weeks and sony still dont have retail unit
even the demo kiosk too.




Re: neogaf keep spinning on this

rmb2

2013-10-27 01:27 pm (UTC)

Ps4 is the biggest smoke & mirror tactic that I ever seen

(Deleted comment)
It's like sony rushed the ps4 out. Remember, sony took the cheap way with the ps4, they're losing money, MS is getting more profits right now. Sony made a box without proper ventilation, you can see the Xbox one with massive heat sinks and big ass fan. Also, the external power brick. Imagine all the heat the ps4 is making inside that little box. Will see if Sony dropped the ball in this one.

Edited at 2013-10-27 01:24 pm (UTC)

sucks the made microsoft rush with them. 13 is bad luck. reason why most hotels dont even have a 13th floor

Makes sense MS dalay Xbox reviews. MS want comparisons with true PS4.

agree, also it is also illogical like geiss said
why MS embargo it if what MS have is something that BAD ......
it is illogical

And also actually people could still seing and try the real X1
even without real review

on other hand,on PS4 land,other than knack, people not sure
if it was running on real PS4 retail or not .....

One way of solving Ps4 heat problems could be to open up the console

Then it would be called OpenStation 4
All thats left todo is for someone to get android running on it !

But cerny said but but but gddr5 its totally out of this world man but bu bu buthurt its got 50% 49% 69% 30% .3.5% power.. Knack knack whos there

2 fps

Sorry i feel better now lol

Eurogamer Secret Developers

Ulisses Cavalcante

2013-10-27 01:43 pm (UTC)

A Good Article talk about develpers choices.


"As a developer, you cannot be driven by the most powerful console, but rather the high middle ground that allows your game to shine and perform across multiple machines."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-secret-developers-what-hardware-balance-actually-means-for-game-creators

Edited at 2013-10-27 01:51 pm (UTC)

They say history repeats itself

av3rag3gam3rguy

2013-10-27 01:44 pm (UTC)

May 5th, 2006 - SCEE CEO David Reeves: "It doesn't really matter what ships at launch." "The first five million are going to buy it, whatever it is, even it didn't have games," edit for 2013 *and even if it overheats after an hour"

I understand Microsofts silence on a LOT of issues now if these things are correct. Why would you waste your time defending your company and its product against a company that has done nothing but lie, and can't even get their product working.

MS will show working Xboxes (as they have been), show games being played on those boxes (the road show) and sit back and watch as people realize more and more the Sony fud.

I game, and i had planned on getting a PS4, but with all this info, if true, i may evoke my own six month delay and wait till they sort this out. I don't need a $400 personal heater that only works for an hour.

Thank the post have been updated...

Yes, I see, very honourable of you to apoligize to carton, although not really nescessary imo. Nothing wrong to protect your journal, better to be a little suspicious then believe everything. These are hard times for xbox lovers with sdf running rampage.

To all the journal members.

indianagames

2013-10-27 01:50 pm (UTC)

This is the start of what everyone here has seen coming. Our insiders our non SDF readers with a brain all pointed to this. It isn't a surprise really but at the same time shocking as hell. I fear the worst outcome for Sony after this one.

Is bad news for Sony really good news for MS?

quazl

2013-10-27 01:57 pm (UTC)

I won't deny that seeing Sony mess up is a little fun especially all the misinformation and blatant lies they have used for the upcoming generation and the launch of the PS3.

I will say that COD:Ghost at 1080p 30Fps is unacceptable if true. I played the games last night and they were spectacular, but if we are getting a lower frame rate with a new generation, then that really bums me out.


I am a frame rate whore, I want a solid frame rate whether it be 30 or 60, but I have played all the Call of Duties and most of them have been 60, I will not be purchasing COD:Ghost for X1 if the single player is 30.

I don't have it preordered, so this isn't a "PreOrder cancelled" line, but I will spend my money elsewhere.

I won't mind as much if BF4 is 30, but would rather if the single player is 60.

I know it seems childish, but that is a downgrade no matter the picture quality. The COD's have never been the best looking game, but they were always the best performers.

Edited at 2013-10-27 01:58 pm (UTC)

Re: Is bad news for Sony really good news for MS?

indianagames

2013-10-27 02:03 pm (UTC)

A lot of people always make a claim that keeping Sony around is good for MS so they don't screw us or to keep them honest. I say bullshit. This company has gone on long enough with piss poor business practices.
It's is time for them to go down. We don't need them anymore.

Nothing to worry about...

nesterpr

2013-10-27 02:02 pm (UTC)


Re: Nothing to worry about...

quazl

2013-10-27 02:05 pm (UTC)

i don't feel peaceful yet.

Maybe Sony is so confident that they have the better console, that they don't need to let anyone see it?

(I know I am reaching really far for that one)

BUT if what we are seeing about resolution on X1 then I am still a little upset.

I don't want PS4 to have a better resolution at launch. It just won't sit well with me.

PS4 Battlefield Resolution Speculation

av3rag3gam3rguy

2013-10-27 02:10 pm (UTC)

***You may need google translate****
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teamplayers.es%2F2013%2F10%2F27%2Fbattlefield-4-funcionara-900p-en-ps4-con-una-calidad-superior-xbox-one-neogaf-lo-confirma%2F

I post this not for the resolution information but that fact that now over at SonyGaf they are trying to say 900p is okay, after weeks of bashing Ryse for its so called "downgrade". Now 900p is acceptable when EVERY ps4 game was 1080p or bust. Oh how the mighty have fallen.


Edited at 2013-10-27 02:13 pm (UTC)

Sony fans boys been known for being good at denial so no surprise for me

46 million people on Xbox Live and thread starters/pixel counters think its gonna make a hill of beans to the masses. Gameplay rules, always has. I will play both consoles in my living room with the lights off laid back in my chair and enjoy. When im out of awesome games to play and im bored to death ill ask you what the pixel count was while i was saving the world and crushing the undead while speeding away in my Ferrari pausing time to check on the direct feed from my many cameras located throughout the city picking up objects on the road to add to my body while my Helghast friends prepare a 64 player battlefield deathmatch upon my arrival.

Well said! *Hits LIKE button*

What is Sony hiding? I have a theory.

landsharkk

2013-10-27 03:07 pm (UTC)

Here's my official post/theory on what's going on.

So far today we've seen numerous game journalists very upset about something related to Sony, including a privately held press event for game/console reviews of the PS4.

We also know that no game journalists have had their hands on with an actual PS4 retail kit.

And we know that the PS4 will require a day 1 patch to unlock several features, including a functioning blu-ray player.


The Question: Why doesn't Sony want anybody to have hands on with an actual PS4 retail kit?

My Theory: Because those retail kits don't have the day 1 patch yet.

Why would a blu-ray player need a day 1 patch to achieve basic function (i.e. read blu-ray discs)?

I am now firmly believing that Sony did have DRM in place for the PS4, but the day 1 patch will remove it. However, Sony doesn't want to let anybody get hands on with a retail kit before the day one patch, else their secret will be revealed.

And that's just part of the bigger picture, where Sony is going to try and control the media response to the console, but not let anyone use the actual console. We've seen low framerates, freezing, overheating, etc from numerous sources on the PS4 devkits. Is that also part of Sony's concern?

Something big is going on and Sony, like always, is using smoke and mirrors to present only positive info to consumers (they've been doing this for years and I can cite many examples).

I'm not a huge conspiracy theorist, but after seeing twitter/neogaf/etc today, I'm feeling a lot more confident about my theory.

Lastly, even GiantBomb, an extremely well respected neutral game jouranlist site is upset with Sony as per their posts today.

I think within the next 48 hours a lot of questions that have gone unanswered for so long will finally be revealed.

-LS

Re: What is Sony hiding? I have a theory.

angryguy77

2013-10-27 03:18 pm (UTC)

Yeah, I wondered if this has something to do with drm as well. I questioned if this is related to drm with movies,which sony has said it would like to have.

What possibly could be the reason for the BR player needing an update?

Whatever the reason, I don't think sony will be able to hide it for much lo ger

I like today much better than yesterday, lol

French website titling 'PS4: The wind maybe beginning to change'

warfaregt

2013-10-27 03:26 pm (UTC)

Nice news, seems medias are changing their mind after so much hype about PS4. Finally ...

http://www.gameblog.fr/forum/topic/153710-ps4-et-si-le-vent-tournait/

Re: French website titling 'PS4: The wind maybe beginning to change'

and3rs78

2013-10-27 04:21 pm (UTC)

Go this English?

A little more good medicine

megatron_631

2013-10-27 03:28 pm (UTC)

Read the tweets before this tweet as well. More confirmation the shitstorm isn't about XB1

https://twitter.com/thekevindent/status/394357775536369664

Re: A little more good medicine

indianagames

2013-10-27 03:47 pm (UTC)

Good read. Just heightens the whole "What the hell is going in with Sony?" Mantra.
Sony will issue some BS to cover it up and the SDF will sing songs around the camp fire "by gamers, for gamers". My ASS.

All X1 games will be 1080p at launch.

Believe insider.

PS4 downgrades incoming.

Keep eyes on DF.

GAF will be dust

We have to be careful over 1080p and what this applies to, if true.

1080p 32 or 64 player on BF4 at 60fps........hmmm i am not sure!

So the reviewers get to see a staged PS4 on Nov 12th. Nov 15th is release day. Meaning PS4s would have been shipped and credit cards charged. No turning back. Very strange indeed

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