But omni is still a big jump... It has an
And knowing the industry campers on forms ... Lets clear this up!!
Microsoft has massive budget for there Kryptos Project..
And like I have said these "SOC" are only based on Pc gpus buy name and basic specs.. These are not the type of hardware you can purchase at your store.
A lot of money has been invested into these chips.. Power tdp and cooling has been the main factors in there design But also wafer density 28nm chip sizes.
The mars system "SOC" is running @600mhz there is an audio dsp on this chip and a 4 core cpu.. It has 4 cores 1 thread per core. And runs @ 1.8 ghz.. This chip does not run hot its all most identical to the wii u.. But due to the nature of the 8850 gpu. Which is not the same as the pc counter part .. Its gflops is close to 650. This chip has access to the edram and main system ram which is 4gbs of ddr4.
Now the application / real hardware .. Is based on a
venus a dual gpu design. But these are costume designed.. Also not your standard pc part.
Each venus soc ..contains a 4 core cpu which has 4 threads per core. These are clocked @ 2.4ghz.
The gpus are 800mhz with 1.5gbs of gddr5 ram clocked @ 1.2ghz. They are not clocked as high as there pc counter parts. Hense there not of the shelf parts. And do not need the tdp ether.
There gpu each have 1.2tf each. Now each chip has a hardware dsp for rendering future engines that are not possible on pc at this time.. and a hardware blitter
. Which has access to the edram and system memory.
The mars soc uses 40/70 watts
The venus are 80/110watts the external power is 300watts but we are using 230watts or that is what we believe system draw is. Or the hardware techs suggested when we spoke.
Now on paper the whole sdk is around 3.2tf. but with the blitter and dsp the system can produce around 4.2ft on paper.. Which is the second fastest chip even fast performance then starsha. As that is all most identical soc but except it has one higher clocked 8970 gpu.. No blitter no edram and the memory bus is 256bit. Starsha gddr is also 256bit. Starsha is a 3.2tf console. Hence ms design change in december 2012. They changed to
2x venus 9850 spec soc with gddr5 when it was found that sony had updated there design to have more faster ram and gpu. Also the soc in starsha is an 8 core jaguar at 2.0ghz.. But it has two threads per-core.
Like i have said starsha
or thebes is still a massive jump... now oban is not inside starsha .. Oban is the name of the blitter and buss chip that controls the 3x soc in kryptos. Its 384bit and has 550gb/s it was designed to enhance the sysyem for ray tracing and other memory heavy rendering engines "ray tracing" Starsha main design is 4k gaming.. But it will not have special hardware for ray tracing. The reason behind such different
Between the two console company's
Is sony as a whole company need the omni to drive there tv sector 4k tv's 8k but Starsha can not drive iq at 4k or 8k with the iq that 1080p or 2k will have. Yes there is up-scale. Oban is the game changer for ms. You all will see very soon with your own eyes and ears. ;)
MIsterxmedia: so, I see difficulties to achieve 4.2T performance on 2xSOC on Xbox rather than 3.2T on 1 SOC of PS4 in multiplatform games. Is that true? Porting problems ahead for xbox? Xbox will use only 1SOC because 1SOC will be on PS4 and PC or it will scale automatically to 2xSOC on xbox
So the answer is - PS4 will be more powerful in multiplatform...
But 1.2T GPU and 1.8T GPU is a big difference?Every multi platform or 3rd party game will look better on
2tf is old so is sony 1.8
No, i mean 1.2T for 1 SOC GPU in xbox(1.2x2Socs total on GPU part) as you said today and i can guess 1.8T for GPU in PS4 if its total 3.2T.
The 2xvenus and 1x mars are design with oban controllers. These soc can work together. But they do not need crossfire..
Insider: can because i have seen it..
Tflops is only half the picture there is stuff in this console that will change the way we see gfx ;)
My after notes:
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